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DBE Program Points of Contact

DOT Contacts

For general information about the DBE rules/regulations: Office of the General Counsel, 202-366-6984 (JoAnne Robinson) JoAnne.Robinson@dot.gov.

For information on DBE certification appeals: Departmental Office of Civil Rights, 202-366-6968 (Marc Pentino)  Marc.Pentino@dot.gov

For information on programs to assist small and disadvantaged business: Office of Small and Disadvantaged Business Utilization (OSDBU), Leonardo San Roman 202-366-1930 or (800) 532-1169 leonardo.Sanroman@dot.gov

For information on the DBE program in specific operating administrations:

  • Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) Office of Civil Rights: 202-366-8110 martha.kenley@dot.gov MarthaKenley, National DBE Program Manager), Office of Chief Counsel 202-366-3813 (Denesha James).
  • Federal Transit Administration (FTA) Office of Civil Rights: 202-366-1065 (Britney Berry); or Office of Chief Counsel, 202-366-4011 (Scheryl Portee).
  • Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Office of Civil Rights: 202-267-0487  Marcus.England@faa.gov (Marcus England); or Office of Chief Counsel - 202-267-7713 x3199 elizabeth.newman@faa.gov (Elizabeth Newman).
State ContactsTable of DBE State Contacts

 AL

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

John Huffman
DBE Unit Supervisor, AL DOT
2720 Gunter Park Drive
West Montgomery, Alabama 36309-3050
(334) 244-6261
(334) 260-5313
huffmanjo@dot.state.al.us

Clarence Hampton
Compliance Manager, AL DOT
1409 Coliseum Boulevard
Montgomery, Alabama 36130-3050
(334) 242-6340
(334) 263-7586
hamptoncl@dot.state.al.us

AK

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Dennis Good
Manager, Civil Rights Office, AK DOT
2200 E. 42nd Ave.,
Anchorage, Alaska 99519-6900
Phone 907-269-0848
Fax 907-269-0847
dennis.good@alaska.gov

Mary Siroky
Division Director - Administrative Services
3132 Channel Dr.
Juneau, Alaska 99801
(907) 465-3911
mary.siroky@alaska.gov

AR

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Joanna P. McFadden
Section Head EEO/DBE
P.O. Box 2261
Little Rock, Arkansas 72203
(501) 569-2298
(501) 569-2965
joanna.mcfadden@ahtd.ar.gov

Natasha Halbert
DBE Specialist, AR State Highway and Transportation Department
P.O. Box 2261
Little Rock , Arkansas 72203
(501) 569-2259
(501) 569-2965
natasha.halbert@ahtd.ar.gov

AZ

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Vivien Lattibeaudiere, Ph.D.
Manager, Business Engagement & Compliance Office
Arizona DOT
1135 N. 22nd Ave., 2nd Floor
Phoenix, Arizona 85009
(602) 712-7761
vlattibeaudiere@azdot.gov

Johnnie Burns

Small Business Development Officer Arizona DOT
1135 N. 22nd Ave., 2nd Floor
Phoenix, Arizona 85009
(602) 712-7761
(602) 712-8429
jburns@azdot.gov

CA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Angela Shell
Assistant Director, Office of Business and Economic Opportunity, California DOT (Caltrans)
1823 14th Street
Sacramento, California 95811
(916) 324-0990
(916) 324-1862
angela.shell@dot.ca.gov

Janice Salais
Chief, Certification Unit (Caltrans)
1823 14th Street
Sacramento, California 95811
(916) 324-1700
(916) 324-8760
Janice_Salais@dot.ca.gov

CO

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Katherine Williams
Small Business Programs & Title VI Supervisor│CDOT CRBRC
4201 E. Arkansas Ave., Room 150
Denver, CO 80222
(303)757-9162
katherine.williams@state.co.us 

CT

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Shari Pratt
DBE Certification Manager,
Connecticut Department of Transportation 2800 Berlin Turnpike
Newington, Connecticut 06131-7546
(860) 594-2171
(860) 594-3016
shari.pratt@ct.gov

Debra Goss
Manager (DBELO), Office of Contract Compliance, Connecticut Department of Transportation
2800 Berlin Turnpike, Room 1314
Newington, Connecticut 06131-7546
(860) 594-2169
(860) 594-3016
debra.goss@ct.gov

DE

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Ramon Ceballos
DBE Program Manager, DELDOT
P.O. Box 778
Dover, Delaware 19903
(302) 760-2035
(302) 739-2254
ramon.ceballos@state.de.us 

DC

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Lisa Gregory
Chief, Office of Civil Rights, DDOT
55 M Street, SE, 3rd Floor
Washington, District of Columbia 20003
(202) 671-2628
lisa.gregory@dc.gov

Luisa Nguyen
Equal Opportunity Specialist, DBE Unit, DDOT
55 M Street, SE, 3rd Floor
Washington, District of Columbia 20003
(202) 671-0630 luisa.nguyen@dc.gov

Leutisha Stills
Equal Opportunity Specialist DBE Unit, DDOT
55 M Street, SE, 3rd Floor,
Washington, District of Columbia 20003
202.671.0479
leutisha.stills@dc.gov

FL

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Vicki Smith
DBE Certification Manager, FL DOT - EOO
605 Suwannee St. MS65
Tallahassee, Florida 32399-0450
(850) 414-4746
(850) 414-4879
victoria.smith@dot.state.fl.us 

GA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Kimberly King
Division Director GA DOT, One Georgia Center
600 West Peachtree St., NW, 7th Floor
Atlanta, Georgia 30308
(404) 631-1972
(404) 631-1943
kking@dot.ga.gov 

HI

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Melanie Martin
DBE Program Supervisor HI DOT
869 Punchbowl Street, Rm. 112
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
(808) 587-2023
(808) 587-2025
melanie.martin@hawaii.gov

Julie Rawlins
DBE Program Certifier HI DOT
869 Punchbowl Street, Rm. 112
Honolulu, Hawaii 96813
(808) 587-2024
(808) 587-2025
julie.a.rawlins@hawaii.gov

ID

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Elizabeth Healas
DBE Program Coordinator, DBE Supportive Services Coordinator, Idaho Transportation Department
P.O. Box 7129
Boise, Idaho 83707-1129
(208) 334-8567
(208) 332-7812
Elizabeth.Healas@itd.idaho.gov 

IL

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Frank W. McNeil
Director Office of Business & Workforce Diversity, Illinois DOT
2300 S. Dirksen Parkway
Springfield, Illinois 62703
(217) 785-5394
(217) 782-8417
Frank.McNeil@illinois.gov

Vittorio M. Gomez
Deputy Director Office of Business and Workforce Diversity, Illinois DOT
100 W. Randolph, JRTC, Ste. 6-600
Chicago, Illinois 60601
(312) 793-2966
(312) 793-1251
Vittorio.Gomez@illinois.gov

IN

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Elizabeth Kiefner Crawford
Director, Economic Opportunity Division, Indiana DOT
100 North Senate Avenue, Room N750
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
(317) 234-8008
(317) 233-0891
ekiefner1@indot.in.gov

Derrick Casson
DBE Certification Manager, Economic Opportunity Division
100 North Senate Avenue, Room N750
Indianapolis, Indiana 46204
(317) 233-4664
(317) 233-0891
dcasson@indot.in.gov

IA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Karen Kienast
Civil Rights Administrator, Iowa DOT
800 Lincoln Way
Ames, Iowa 50010
(515) 233-7970
(515) 239-1175
karen.kienast@dot.iowa.gov 

KS

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory (Construction)
DBE Directory (Non-Construction)

Doria Watson
Civil Rights Administrator, KS DOT, Eisenhower State Office Bldg.
700 SW Harrison, Suite 370B
Topeka, Kansas 66603
Ph. (785) 296-7940
Fax.(785) 296-0723
doria@ksdot.org 

KY

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Tony Youssefi
Administrative Branch Manager, Office for Civil Rights and Small Business Development
200 Mero Street
Frankfort, Kentucky 40622
Ph. (502)782-4810
Fax. (502) 564-2114 or (502) 564-1491
TYouseffi@ky.gov

Melvin Bynes
Staff Assistant and DBE Liaison Officer, Office for Civil Rights and Small Business Development
200 Mero Street
Frankfort, Kentucky 40622
Ph.  (502)782-4816
Fax. (502) 564-1491 or (502) 564-2114
melvin.bynes2@ky.gov

LA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Stephanie Ducote
Compliance Programs Director,
LA DOTD
P.O. Box 94245
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70804-9245
(225) 379-1363
(225) 379-1865
stephanie.ducote@la.gov

Remy Graves
DBE/SBE Program Manager,
LA DOTD
Post Office Box 94245
Baton Rouge, Louisiana 70804-9245
(225) 379-1762
(225) 379-1865
remy.graves@la.gov

MA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Nedra White
Director Certification, Massachusetts Supplier Diversity Office
1 Ashburn Place McCormack Building Suite 1313
Boston, Massachusetts 02108
(617) 502-8852
(617) 502-8841
Nedra.white@state.ma.us 

MD

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Sabrina Bass, Director

Office of Minority Business Enterprise 7201 Corp. Center Dr Hanover, MD. 21076 Phone: (410) 865-1240 Email: sbass@mdot.maryland.gov

 

ME

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Sherry Tompkins
EEO, Civil Rights Office, Maine DOT
#16 State House Station
Augusta, Maine 04333-0016
Ph: (207) 624-3066
Fax:(207) 624-3021
sherry.tompkins@maine.gov

 

MI

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Lisa S. Thompson

Administrator, Office of Business Development, MI DOT
P.O. Box 30050
Lansing, Michigan 48909
(517) 373-2377
(517) 335-0945
thompsonl@michigan.gov

 

MN

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Kim Collins, J.D.
Director, Office of Civil Rights, MN/DOT
395 John Ireland Blvd., M.S. 170
St. Paul, MN 55155
(651) 366-3150
(651) 366-3129
kim.collins@state.mn.us

Wanda Kirkpatrick
Director, Equal Opportunity Metropolitan Council, Chair Minnesota Unified Certification Program
390 Robert St. North
St. Paul, Minnesota 55101
(651) 602-1085
wanda.kirkpatrick@metc.state.mn.us

MS

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Stacy Slay
DBE Coordinator, MS DOT, Office of Civil Rights
P.O. Box 1850
Jackson, Mississippi 39215-1850
(601) 359-7466
(601) 576-4504
sslay@mdot.ms.us

Carolyn Bell
Civil Rights Director, MS DOT, Office of Civil Rights
P.O. Box 1850
Jackson, Mississippi 39215-1850
(601) 359-7466
(601) 576-4504
cbell@mdot.ms.us

MO

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Lester Woods
External Civil Rights Director, MO Highway & Dept. of Transportation
P.O. Box 270 1617 Missouri Blvd.
Jefferson City, Missouri 65102
(573) 751-2859
(573) 526-0558
lester.woodsjr@modot.mo.gov 

MT

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Patti McCubbins
Operations Chief, Civil Rights Department, MT DOT
2701 Prospect Ave. P.O. Box 201001
Helena, Montana 59620-1001
(406) 444-6042
(406) 444-7243
pmccubbins@mt.gov

Shannon Hahn
DBE Recruitment & Supportive Services, MT DOT
2701 Prospect Ave. P.O. Box 201001
Helena, Montana 59620-1001
(406) 444-7287
(406) 444-7243
shahn@mt.gov

MT

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Maggie Metger
DBE Program Specialist
2701 Prospect Ave
P.O. Box 201001
Helena, Montana 59620-1001
Ph. (406) 444-6337
Fax (406) 444-7243
mmetzger@mt.gov

Maghan Strachan
DBE Program Specialist
2701 Prospect Ave
PO Box 201001
Helena, Mt 59620-1001
Ph. 406-444-6337
Fax 406-444-7243
mastrachan@mt.gov

NE

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Joe Kisicki
External Civil Rights Coordinator
P.O. Box 94759
Lincoln, Nebraska 68509-4759
(402) 479-4531
Fax (402) 479-3728
joe.kisicki@nebraska.gov

Christopher Hassler

Highway Civil Rights Coordinator

P.O. Box 94759
Lincoln, Nebraska 68509-4759 (402) 479-3553
Fax (402) 479-3728 christopher.hassler@nebraska.gov

NH

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

David Cloutier
DBE Coordinator, NH DOT
7 Hazen Drive P.O. Box 483
Concord, New Hampshire 03302
(603) 271-6612
(402) 271-8048
DCloutier2@dot.state.nh.us 

NV

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Yvonne Schuman
Civil Rights Officer, State of Nevada DOT
123 E. Washington Avenue
Las Vegas, Nevada 89101
(702) 730-3301 or (702) 370-3001
yschuman@dot.state.nv.us 

NJ

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Cynthia Rago
DBE Certification, New Jersey DOT
1035 Parkway Avenue P.O. Box 600
Trenton, New Jersey 08625-0600
(609) 530-3882
(609) 530-4030
Cynthia.Rago@dot.state.nj.us

Lydia Harper

Manager DBE Unit
DBE Certification New Jersey DOT
1035 Parkway Ave
P.O. Box 600
Trenton, NJ 08625-0600
Ph. (609) 530-2033, 3882, 4030
lydia.harper@dot.state.nj.us

NM

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Damian Segura

DBE Liaison & Title VI Coordinator, Construction & Civil Rights Bureau
New Mexico DOT
1570 Pacheco St., A10
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
(505) 629-9890
Damian.segura@state.nm.us

Geanette Garcia
DBE Certification Coordinator, Construction & Civil Rights Bureau New Mexico DOT
1570 Pacheco, St., A10
Santa Fe, New Mexico 87505
(505) 469-1435
geanette.garcia@state.nm.us

NY

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Sondra Little
Director, Office of Civil Rights
50 Wolf Road, 6th Floor
Albany, New York 12232
(518) 457-1129
(518) 485-5517
Sondra.Little@dot.ny.gov

Johnny Cisneros DBE Certification Supervisor
50 Wolf Road, 6th Floor
Albany, New York 12232
(518) 417-6631
Johnny.Cisneros@dot.ny.gov

NC

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Benny Sloan

Office of Equal Opportunity and Workforce Services, NC DOT
1511 Mail Service Center
Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1511
(919) 508-1940
1-800-522-0453
bfsloan@ncdot.gov

Marci Wright

1511 Mail Service Center Raleigh, North Carolina 27699-1511 (919) 508-1886 Mlwright4@ncdot.gov

ND

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Ramona Bernard
Director, Civil Rights Division NDDOT
608 East Boulevard Avenue
Bismarck, North Dakota 58505-0700
Ph. (701) 328-2576
Fax (701) 328-0343

rbernard@nd.gov

Denise Spanjer
DBE Program Administrator, Civil Rights Division
NDDOT
608 East Boulevard Ave
Bismarck, North Dakota 58505-0700
Ph. (701) 328-3116
Fax (701) 328-0343
dgspanjer@nd.gov

OH

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

P. Brad Jones
Deputy Director, Division of Construction Management, OH DOT
1980 West Broad Street, MS 5100
Columbus, Ohio 43223
Ph. (614) 466-3598
brad.jones@dot.state.oh.us

Larry Owen
Office of Small and Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program Administrator, Division of Construction Management, OH DOT
1980 West Broad Street, MS 4190
Columbus, Ohio 43223
(614) 466-7699 larry.owen@dot.state.oh.us

OK

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Elizabeth Blais
Assistant Division Manager, Civil Rights Division, OK DOT
200 N.E. 21st Street
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma 73105
(405) 522-3626
(405) 522-2136
eblais@odot.org

 

OR

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Tiffany Hamilton
DBE Program Manager, ODOT Office of Civil Rights
355 Capitol Street, NE
Salem, Oregon 97301-3871
(503) 986-4355
(503) 986-6382
Tiffany.Hamilton@odot.state.or.us

Carrie L. Hulse Program Manager Office of Minority, Women, and Emerging Small Business DBE Certification
775 Summer St., Suite 200
Salem, Oregon 97301
(503) 986-0075 (503) 581-5115 Fax
Omwesb.web@oregon.gov

PA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Jocelyn I. Harper
Director, Bureau of Equal Opportunity, PA DOT Commonwealth Keystone Building
400 North St., 5th Floor
Harrisonburg, Pennsylvania 17120-0041
(717) 787-5891 or 800-468-4201
(717) 772-4026
jocharper@state.pa.us

Jeannie M. Daniels
DBE Investigator-In-Charge, PA DOT Office of Chief Counsel
7000 Geerdes Boulevard
King of Prussia, Pennsylvania 19406
(610) 205-6600
(610) 205-6606
jdaniels@pa.gov

PR

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Ana Del Moral
Deputy Director (DBE), Civil Rights Office, PR DOT and Public Works, Highway and Transportation Authority
P.O. Box 42007
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00940-2007 (787)721-8787 extension 1205
(787) 729-1562
(787) 721-2621
adelmoral@dtop.gov.pr 

RI

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Vanessa E. Crum, Esq.
Administrator/DBE,CC,OJT and Contract Administration, RI DOT
2 Capitol Hill, Room 111
Providence, Rhode Island 2903
(401) 222-3260
(401) 222-6168
vanessa.crum@dot.ri.gov

Charles C. Newton
Administrator/Certification, RI Dept. of Administration
One Capitol Hill
Providence, Rhode Island 2903
(401) 574-8670

SC

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Arlene Prince, Ph.D.

Director, Business Development and Special Programs, SC DOT
955 Park St., P.O. Box 191
Columbia, South Carolina 29202-0191
(803) 737-1717
(803) 737-1086
PrinceAF@scdot.org

Gary Linn
Supervisor DBE Program Development, SC DOT
955 Park St. Rm. 117
Columbia, South Carolina 29202
(803) 737-1372
(803) 737-2021
LinnGS@scdot.org

SD

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Katie Lewedag DBE Program ManagerBecker Hanson Building700 E. Broadway Ave.Pierre, South Dakota 57501(605) 773-4906(605) 773-2893katie.lewedag@state.sd.us 

TN

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Deborah Luter
Director, Tennessee Department of Transportation, Civil Rights Office
James K. Polk Building
505 Deaderick Street, Suite 1800
Nashville, Tennessee 37243
(615) 741-3681
(615) 741-3169
deborah.luter@tn.gov

Elizabeth Michael
Small Business Development Director, Tennessee DOT
505 Deadrick St, Suite 1800
Nashville, TN 37243
(615) 741-3681
(615) 741-3169
elizabeth.michael@tn.gov

TX

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Ms. Tonia Rutledge

Section Director TxDOT- Office of Civil Rights
Diversity and Economic Opportunity Section, 200 E. Riverside Drive
Austin, Texas 78704
Ph. (512) 416-4689
Fax (512) 486-5515
tonia.rutledge@TxDOT.gov

 

UT

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Stacy Frandsen
Contracts, Compliance, Certification Manager
4501 South 2700 West
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-1520
(801) 965-4344
(801) 965-4101
sfrandsen@utah.gov

Tori Berry
Deputy Manager Contracts, Compliance, Certification
4501 South 2700 West
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-1520
(801) 965-4740
(801) 965-4101
tberry@utah.gov

Judy Romrell
DBE Coordinator
4501 South 2700 West
Salt Lake City, Utah 84114-1520
(801) 965-4208
(801) 965-4101
jromrell@utah.gov

VT

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Lori Valburn
Civil Rights & Labor Compliance

Section Chief, VT Agency of Transportation
One National Life Drive
Montpelier, VT 05633-5001
(802) 828-5561
(802) 828-1047
lori.valburn@state.vt.us

Sonya Boisvert
Civil Rights Program Manager, VT Agency of Transportation
One National Life Drive
Montpelier, VT 05633-5001
(802) 828-2644
(802) 828-1047
sonya.boisvert@state.vt.us

VA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Ms. Grindly Johnson
Chief of Equal Business Employee Opportunity
1401 East Broad Street
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 786-2085
grindly.johnson@vdot.virginia.gov

Calvin Thweatt
Certification and Contract Manager, Virginia Department of Minority Business Enterprise
1111 East Main Street, Suite 300
Richmond, Virginia 23219
(804) 786-3109
calvin.thweatt@dmbe.virginia.gov

VI

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Sharon Challenger
Civil Rights Program Manager, V.I. DOT, Department of Public Works
6002 Estate Anna's Hope Christiansted
St. Croix, Virgin Islands 00820-4428
(340) 773-1290 

WA

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Teresa Berntsen

Acting Director

Washington State Office of Minority and Women Business Enterprises
210 11th Avenue SW, Suite 401 P.O. Box 41160
Olympia, Washington 98504-1160
(360) 664-9759
(360) 586-7079 

WI

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

E. Aggo Akyea

Director, Office of Business Opportunity and Equity Compliance
4802 Sheboygan Avenue, Room 451
P.O. Box 7965
Madison, WI 53707-7965
(608) 267-9527
aggo.akyea@dot.wi.gov

Michele Carter DBE Program Chief, Office of Business Opportunity and Equity Compliance
6150 W. Fond Du Lac Avenue Milwaukee, WI 53218 (414) 438-4587 (414) 438-5392 Michele.carter@dot.wi.gov

WV

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory (Consultants)
DBE Directory (Contractors)

Drema L. Smith
Director, EEO Division, West Virginia DOT
1900 Kanawha Blvd. East Bldg. 5, Room 948
Charleston, West Virginia 25305-0430
(304) 558-3931
(304) 558-4236
Drema.L.Smith@wv.gov

Bob Cooke
DBE Program Manager, West Virginia DOT
1900 Kanawha Blvd. East Bldg. 5, Room 948
Charleston, West Virginia 25305-0430
(304) 558-3931
(304) 558-4236
Robert.S.Cooke@wv.gov

WY

DOT Site
DBE Site
DBE Directory

Lisa Fresquez
DBE Program Manager, Wyoming DOT
5300 Bishop Blvd.
Cheyenne, Wyoming 82009-3340
(307) 777-4457
(307) 777-4765
Lisa.Fresquez@wyo.gov

Kent O. Lambert
Civil Rights Director, Wyoming DOT
5300 Bishop Blvd.
Cheyenne, Wyoming 82009-3340
(307) 777-4268
(307) 777-4765
Ken.Lambert@wyo.gov

Updated: Wednesday, August 3, 2016
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